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Dear Lady,

I'm deeply sorry to disturb you.
I know it's not my business.

I see you're upset, I understand your feelings.
If I were you, I would been unhappy like you.
However, I believe that he has realized what you feel for him and what you did for him.

Although, you saw his reactions to what you did for him, especially he chose photo from your IG for one night in his blog.
Possiblity, he likes you but his feeling is not much enough to do anything more than celebrity and his fans. 

Actually, you needless to prove that you're right or others people are wrong. As you said, only him and you know what the truth is.

You said you love him, don't you?
Can you love him continue even he does anything that you don't like?
Can you keep support him even he won't love you in return or he can't be yours?

Honestly, i think loving him is easier than being in relationship with him. He is very good guy but being his partner isn't easy.

Lady, he is Star but he is a Man also.

A man that truly interestef in you will never leave you guessing about the role he intends to play in your life. Good men pursue the women that they want with upfront communication, genuine intentions and consistent effort."

You may not listen to me but I hope you won't destroy your self-value and hurt yourself because you love someone.

Every women deserve someone who love us and let themselves be part of our life.

Thank you for reading.


週二 6月 11, 2019 11:38 am
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Old old Owl is very right.


DV is probably thankful for your continuous support so he accepted your letters, read your inbox messages and allowed you to hug him. But you should also understand that he allows many of his long term fans to hug him. He does not want to disappoint his fans. As you can see from many other fans' photos, he is kind and friendly to many of them. Sometimes he is too attractive and a lady attracted to him may have the illusion that the love is reciprocal.

However, he did not want to start a relationship with you. The answer is clear. If he would like to start any relationship with you, he would have initiated that. He is very experienced with women and I think he does not lack any women. Ignoring you is a very clear signal that he gave u. He might think that there is no harm being nice to a fan at first.

You should not continue to harrass him and ruin his reputation. He has contributed a lot to society and the film industry. He deserves respect.

Also, loving an idol is very different from loving a real person and engaging in a real relationship with him. We only know DV from mostly the media and the posts he writes. There are many aspects of him that are completely unknown. Are u sure you can love him as much when u are living a real life with him? Do u even know what sort of girls he truly likes or how he perceives relationship or how much he values romantic relationships? Or perhaps he has someone already?


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其实事情没有多复杂吧。星空同学,我今天就完全从你的角度来谈下看法。退一步来说,就算你说的话都是事实,全部正确,就是别人亏欠了你。但是你闹了几个月了,讲了很多不该讲的话,又骂了很多不该骂的人,感觉这个剧情已经完全反转了吧,变成了你亏欠了别人很多吧。相信都看过电视上“一哭二闹三上吊”的狗血剧情吧,结果总是让观众原本还对女主有那么一点点的同情心消磨殆尽。无异于自己给自己盖了一个泼妇的章还不自知,得不偿失。其实相比之下,我觉得宁愿别人亏欠我一点,也好过我亏欠别人,这样我的内心会比较平静…至于你说的把你的水印图替换下来,也不是不可以,只是你现在情绪这么激动,万一又引发了你别的联想,感觉谁也承担不了这个责任,需要时间吧。感觉话已经说得很开了,恩怨也就此一笔勾销,你意下如何?


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Notes:只要星空給到分寸,自己貼子放段時間會刪掉或煩請Admin刪掉。如果又失去分寸,就可能視情況再貼。和大家打個招呼先~

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星空,怎麽能說無關的人呢?妳在自己空間無論怎樣都沒人打擾妳。任何事關公共空間秩序就事關任何人。只是誰願出來和妳交流試試,誰不願而已。沒出來的不代表沒有正義感,可能只是想不到適合他們的方式和妳交流。或者他們覺得已經有人在和妳交流了,也就不出來了。就像開始我也好久不發聲的,先是覺得不關自己的事,再是覺得自己沒有立場和足夠信息,然後看到已經不少人在對抗妳。但妳忽略一點,很多人每天都會來此一訪,大家在這裏也是有情緒積累的。持續到這麽久,妳和介意這裏情況的每個人都有關。

講真,自己和癡線等好多人觀點都差不多。男人不像女人各種彎彎繞繞腦路,解決問題就OK。女人會無限聯想從而也容易制造問題。事情根本沒妳所想那麽復雜。但我現在已了解妳性格,如不配合妳凡事說個透,大家是會被無休止欺負下去的。當然,自己同時也確實希望通過說透,嘗試下能否對妳有啟發。畢竟這是根本所在。相信很多古迷或訪客,從來都不會針對妳這個人,僅僅是針對妳的言詞和行為。


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週四 6月 13, 2019 9:36 pm
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為什麽這件認知困擾會發生
無論水印前用過多少次圖片,重點不是次數,是性質。都反映界限。如果不鬧,再發可能還是會采用。因為坦蕩。

妳首次善意回應OldOldOwl和Genie,說明只要好好交流,妳其實也領情的。也並非不願跳出局限看問題。有些微妙妳很明白,回復上面兩位合情合理。This also leads me to wonder if your very rude and nasty words and behavior here were started by something else? Maybe I’ll say this for you, maybe not. But you know what I’m driving at. I can’t say too much, or I’ll probably be verbally attacked here too and it just won’t help ~

Genie回復中有一點相信妳也會認為中肯。一个人的illusion是因為當其自己有超越公共社交界限的想法時,由於對方吸引力和親和力,很容易覺得對方有對等想法。

別人思維很多是 [1] 對方特點是對所有人nice, 並非只對自己。[2] 被對方獨特吸引很正常。自己只是無數中一個。[3] 即使有可能也不會去超越。除非共同大智慧,親密關系反具破壞力。[4] 即使有回應,除非特定理由, 僅顏貌或是年輕或是財富等其它都無法構成恒久價值。

為什麽妳和別人不一樣?甚至這種情況幾乎是必然。想了很久,除了經歷特殊導致習慣性缺乏對別人難處的體會,導致對他人認知世界了解有限,並且對不同地域社交禮儀的常規解讀有限外,還有以下原因,是妳自己平時刷屏時明顯給到大家的信息 。

[1] 女生奔30的過程普遍心理復雜。都有心懷大誌又恐難得誌的緊迫感。如再逢經歷特殊比如現況和期待暫有出入,必然引起安全感缺失,會比任何時候都需要也容易fall for someone。碰上有治愈力的公眾人,又有現實互動途徑,加上成長造就的強迫性心理暗示,對外界認知偏差必然產生。是必然!

同時,事後諸葛也好,確實很早有預感,由於香港和內地某些價值觀和思維習慣差異,加上對方獨特,出現這種情況可能性不小。但未必如此極端。

[2]妳無數次提到現場Fans排斥妳,以及常常強調對男性居高臨下,自然潛意識裏被自己暗示自己最高貴最優秀,沒理由不被特殊對待。並給人印象平時無人不被[拿下]。並預設所有人都一樣[理論上也不通]。這種assumption下,任何對方信號沒有完全接收好,確實容易認為對方有想法。

[3] 從慣用[妳粉絲]三個字,甚至奇怪地要對方通過得罪所有fans來[獲妳垂青],反映潛意識裏把自己放在公眾人現實女友位置去鄙視現場女生。即使後來所有理解力正常的人都看出情況,還是質疑 [怎麽可能]。顯明要的可能不是回應,而是習慣性地對一個心理需求勢在必奪,只是沒有意識到。

妳講過的童年被強迫考滿分令自己震驚很久,給人感覺,這樣經歷的人很難在挫折面前堅強,而更容易在pride面前, 潛意識裏都很難容忍預期外偏差。尤其單個小孩家庭,這種性格概率可能蠻高。不知妳是否only child。

很多不管妳看得起看不起的人都有認知偏差時刻,甚至更荒唐也說不定。所有女生都有軟弱面。合理面對是最好保護。一念之差,生活或許馬上重新好玩有趣。持續攻擊會擴大偏差和擴大損害妳自己。更何況無論怎麽攻擊,對方對自己和大家對對方的認知都很成熟,並不會因妳攻擊發生任何影響。


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菠菜,你说错了,这不是奔三症状,是奔更年期症状,哈哈哈…


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覺得妳完全沒必要難過或尊嚴過不去。我認為任何人都應該不會不喜歡一個有looks,又熱情支持自己又有童真的人,包括他。但妳要知道,looks若合眼緣,女生也會喜歡女生,男生也會喜歡男生。這和妳期待的有一定距離。對於早已見過世界的人,妳潛意識裏認為戰無不勝的looks對他們來說早有免疫。他們也會喜歡,但絕對不會像尚未見過世界的人,被輕易征服。如果非要單方面強行認為,就變成harassment , 和他很多喜劇電影裏的調凱一致。但妳不屬於這種人。

妳的情況是典型的愛上愛本身,不是愛上人。不然不會出現部落格裏不顧對方普通公民基礎權利的過激行為,更不用說作為名人的基礎利益了。基於妳年齡和現狀特點,發生fall in love with love itself這種現象很普遍。很多人說不定50%以上都有經歷過。

自己理解妳。感覺在妳,不在外人。只是整整半年,妳沒有說出能推翻本質認知的事來。大家也沒有辯護名人,不然太邪惡。這件事並非因是名人易被洗白,而恰恰是正由於是名人------最重要,他是很有界限意識的公眾人 [自己剛來留言時就提過好幾次,可見不是此刻有意辯白]--------對妳所有回應都是通過公共場合和平臺實現,包括水印圖片,這才是關鍵。再加上平時各種大量影像,采訪,信息,無論hard/soft evidence, 都異常容易輔助任何一個稍有常識的人作為 [ virtual Jury members]就這件怪事來替難以在此發聲的公眾人合理澄清。

如果推理和分析有漏洞,對正義的尊敬,不是只有自己一個。大家隨時可以檢驗。雖不涉及任何法律問題,大家也不能無故冤枉星空感受。


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週五 6月 14, 2019 11:16 pm
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Dear Lady,

I really understand you, him and his fans.
But, I won't talk about how fans reacted to you.
His or fans reactions are not important like what you'll react to yourself.
I'm worry about your feelings.

As the old owl, I understand the guys like him deeply.
As a woman, I understand you.
I believe you love him as a woman love a man.
It's not guilty that we love anyone in this world. I won't blame or judge you about it.

I used to think it gonna better if he will change the photo as you request.
But now, the situation get wore than expectation.
I think If he want to stop the situation, he won't do anything more.
if I were him, I won't do anything or response any your request again too.

Although, you wanna know why he did, it's rarely to know the reason until both of you will see each other in person and you ask him with yourself.

We don't need the answers for every Questions  in this world.
Sometimme, we can't find the reason.
For somethings, 2+2 the answer is not equal 4.

Whatever makes us feel down, we have to let it go.
We have to accept it was happened and let it be. Tomorrow, today will be the past!
Don't waste your energy , don't waste your time.


About the photo. The moment you saw it, you felt so proud and very happy that he used your photo (include the text too).
You felt you were special one to him, right?
Is it not enough? How many people would had chance like you?
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In the other hands,
How did you know, it was only one time he used someone's photo in his blog?
It's possible that he used to put someone's photo in his blog before, but no one claimed like you did.
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I see you're a smart girl but you're naive and innocent about romance relationship.

I hope my words could assist you overcome your situation.

BR,
Very Old Owl.


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星空星空星空 寫:
哦我忘记说了
私信他好多天气热脱衣服

还有种草莓印啊,口交啊这些,你们的偶像怕不是有毒这种类型的粉丝他也招惹

口交是我问他有没有给别人口过





我顶你!古天乐既然勾引你!就得给你个交代!


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哭笑不得。


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